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afya · Jan 02, 2009, 05:51 AM // 05:51

I'll file a patent about taking off pants before you poo.

Joe Fierce · Jan 02, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Sorry, but unless you prove God exists, you can't get anything from that patent.

Also, you can't patent something that you didn't actually create. While you can claim you created breathing and explain how it works and demonstrate, you can't do same with any superior beings. You can claim you created them, explain how they work or what's their domain, but unless you show them, then no way, Jose.

but what if i draw a chart and pictures with penguins just like worlds . com?

Vilaptca · Jan 02, 2009, 08:27 AM // 08:27

From the link posted by The Meth, I found this article, which may or may not apply here.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...17172691.shtml

The article is from October 2008, so its fairly recent. It might be the reason Worlds.com is doing this now and against NCsoft, but at the same time it might save NCsoft from having to deal with this case at all.

Fril Estelin · Jan 02, 2009, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

The Suit
NCSoft's Reply
These are the no good lawyers
many other patent related to server chat systems so, if everyone of those patent holder were to file suit ....

rofl

Great dig pumpkin pie!

On further thoughts, I find this legal action quite ridiculous technically, and even from a legal standpoint. NCsoft has such a wide range of MMO games that it couldn't apply to all their games, GW being notable for having a technology that no other MMO has (and could reasonably be patended, contrarily to worlds.com). Then you'd ask "Why NCsoft?" and people suggested that it's because of their financial situation, but I bet that the greedy lawyers behind worlds.com targeted them for technical reasons, so that they stand a chance, or the explanation that foreign companies don't stand in chance in USA court is correct (and troubling...what kind of justice is that?). But even technically, it doesn't make much sense, you don't patent scalability or networking in general, and even particular implementations of it are so diverse that they have very little chance to convince a jury in the face of technical evidence.

Then there's the idea of getting through the small door to the big houses, which makes more sense to me. NCsoft will undoubtedly get the backing of all the "majors" (Blizzard Activision, SOE, MS, EA) and they're never, ever going to let a crack in their (virtual) worlds. I bet that behind the scenes, a coalition of majors will sign a big check to worlds.com, through many hidden paths, and we'll never hear of this story again, and worlds.com neither. Meanwhile, greedy people get big bucks, honest devs get and companies got a scare, MMO player ponder on this legal action and the futility of USA patents.

This clearly reminds me of the utterly unbelievable "software patents" story, that's still going on strong in Europe. Who can claim parenting of MMOs when they come from oldies like MUDs? It's this stupid idea that you create a new kind of software and want exclusive rights on that. Patent trolling is what it is, an abheration that was possible through the cracks of the system.

cellardweller · Jan 02, 2009, 12:02 PM // 12:02

Out of curiosity, if the judgement did happen to go against NCSoft and for some reason worlds said "you're not allowed to use it anymore" could they just annex Texas and continue selling everwhere else?

Zebideedee · Jan 02, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Lol Microsoft will send Bill Gate's ninjas and kick www.worlds.com off the web

No it's his Oompa Loompas that will do that :P

Ps. What other patents do these scroungers have? Making a cup of tea patent, tying shoelaces in a right to left fashion patent? Bet they play GW's, they're the ones in Ascalon who are always begging for money, prolly for the past 3 years lol

Anon-e-mouse · Jan 02, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

Out of curiosity, if the judgement did happen to go against NCSoft and for some reason worlds said "you're not allowed to use it anymore" could they just annex Texas and continue selling everwhere else?

Radical idea but if they lose, how about they move the all servers to Europe where US based software method patents don't apply.

Sword Hammer Axe · Jan 02, 2009, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Worlds.com can not win this battle I believe. They may be able to strike a huge blow against NCsoft but every MMO? No they do not have the means. The MMO is much too powerful a foe ^^

Chthon · Jan 02, 2009, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Penny Arcade has this to say about Worlds.com:

krasusboy · Jan 03, 2009, 01:25 AM // 01:25

"**** you, i own virtual worlds", this is the content of an email i sent to worlds

Bob Slydell · Jan 03, 2009, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe

Worlds.com can not win this battle I believe. They may be able to strike a huge blow against NCsoft but every MMO? No they do not have the means. The MMO is much too powerful a foe ^^

I just hope worlds goes after blizzard, and then realize they made the last mistake they could ever make while blizzard rips them a new asshole and causes them to shutdown and lose their patent. Oh man if they go after Blizzard it will be bloody, very bloody.

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Originally Posted by krasusboy

"**** you, i own virtual worlds", this is the content of an email i sent to worlds

I'm sure they have gotten TONS of hate mail so far, probably even death threats.LOL

Clarissa F · Jan 03, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

That would involve them leaving their houses and...yeah, not gonna happen.

Well, Ted Kaczinsky never had to leave his cabin. The US Mail did his work.

krasusboy · Jan 03, 2009, 01:43 AM // 01:43

SO why exacly did Worlds target NCSoft first when they coulda gon Nexon, Activision Blizzard, Square Enix, or something else? I just can't find the answer...

the Puppeteer · Jan 03, 2009, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by krasusboy

SO why exacly did Worlds target NCSoft first when they coulda gon Nexon, Activision Blizzard, Square Enix, or something else? I just can't find the answer...

Well - they think NCSoft would be an easy 1st target so they could bulk up on some cash to use when they go against "better" companies

Kostek · Jan 03, 2009, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by krasusboy

SO why exacly did Worlds target NCSoft first when they coulda gon Nexon, Activision Blizzard, Square Enix, or something else? I just can't find the answer...

They asked everyone in the company what are they playing and so no one was playing games published by NCSoft...I suppose that's it.

DarkFlame · Jan 03, 2009, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by krasusboy

SO why exacly did Worlds target NCSoft first when they coulda gon Nexon, Activision Blizzard, Square Enix, or something else? I just can't find the answer...

Easier target, since they don't have quite the same piles of cash laying around as the others to hire all the fancy lawyers and bury Worlds in litigation. That they recently closed up shop in Austin(in Texas) and are relatively weak from their big loss in Tabula Rasa, doesn't help.

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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't a big company (Sony) got sued and lost against a small company over the claim that they shouldn't been using the rumble technology.

Immersion, they sued both Microsoft and Sony. MS settled while Sony eventually lost and is paying some $90 million for that. And in a more recent repeat of that, another patent troll got around to suing Nintendo and MS, also over their controllers. MS settled again, while Nintendo lost and has to pay $21 million. That was back during the summer and last I heard they intend to appeal. Not that there isn't again another troll(or 3) suing them.

Doesn't bode well, ridiculous as it all seems.

Alleji · Jan 03, 2009, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Lawyers should be shot.

EDIT: Wow, this worlds.com website is pretty shitty... I think a giant "whoru?" is in order.

Iuris · Jan 03, 2009, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Lawyers should be shot.

Sure. But I'll demand you pay for your own ticket to get to me. Any you pay for the bullet. Thank you.

Any idiot can sue anyone over anything. Whether he succeeds or not is a different matter and subject to the legal system.

The problem with this method, as far as my cursory look at it allows, seems to be that the patent is so broadly worded and so simplistic in nature, that I fail to see what about it is radically new, where the innovation is that patent law is supposed to be protecting. MMORPGs are after all not a thing of yesterday.

Royal Bodyguard · Jan 03, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26

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Originally Posted by SpiritThief

Source

So it looks like every MMO on the planet will need to shut down? And btw who the **** are worlds.com???

They don't have a case, and even if they do they would be suing literally the WWW community, neopets, gaia online, runescape, Gw, EVERYTHING. The lawsuit would rage for longer than the patent exists and be thrown out of court, you can't sue the world wide web...NOT TO MENTION the size of the lawsuit against every MMO would take the entire US judicial branch generations to finish. So really, what case?

Dr.Jones · Jan 03, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by Chthon

Penny Arcade has this to say about Worlds.com:

Penny arcade wins Yet again. gg this and this alone is the sole reason i keep going to pax....